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PostSubject: Purpose Built Race Cars   Tue Jul 30, 2013 8:30 pm

How come there has never been a series of ALL purpose built race cars? We should try that. LMP2/GT2 or LMP1/GT1.
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PostSubject: Re: Purpose Built Race Cars   Tue Jul 30, 2013 11:00 pm

Mostly due o the lack of adjustability. However, there may be a dedicated race class for season 11. In the testing phases now.

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PostSubject: Re: Purpose Built Race Cars   Wed Jul 31, 2013 11:58 am

I will race this class. better be in the testing and not just saying that lol
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PostSubject: Re: Purpose Built Race Cars   Wed Jul 31, 2013 5:22 pm

Race class... come to me, my preciousssss
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PostSubject: Re: Purpose Built Race Cars   Thu Aug 01, 2013 11:25 pm

I think the dedicated race car class should be the R2 class.  Dubbed "Super GT".  Here are the cars that closely match each other:

#8 Audi ABT TT-R
#5 Team Phoenix Astra V8
#2-6 2011 Audi Touring Car (5 Skins)
Mercedes AMG C-Class Touring Car
#6 Exxon Superflo Supra
#6, #25, #1 2010 Lexus Sc430 (3 Skins)
#12 Calsonic Skyline
#3, #24, #23 2008 Nissan GT-R
#12 2010 Nissan GT-R
Forza Motorsport Genesis Coupe
#18 Takata Dome NSX

This sub class gives the most variety of cars to choose from with similar horsepower and stats
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PostSubject: Re: Purpose Built Race Cars   Fri Aug 02, 2013 2:17 am

Sgt Tethras wrote:
I think the dedicated race car class should be the R2 class.  Dubbed "Super GT".  Here are the cars that closely match each other:

#8 Audi ABT TT-R
#5 Team Phoenix Astra V8
#2-6 2011 Audi Touring Car (5 Skins)
Mercedes AMG C-Class Touring Car
#6 Exxon Superflo Supra
#6, #25, #1 2010 Lexus Sc430 (3 Skins)
#12 Calsonic Skyline
#3, #24, #23 2008 Nissan GT-R
#12 2010 Nissan GT-R
Forza Motorsport Genesis Coupe
#18 Takata Dome NSX

This sub class gives the most variety of cars to choose from with similar horsepower and stats

Probably not these cars buddy. I will reveal/release a list once I am closer to finalizing the class. With this proposed class there is fairly limited ability to performance balance so I have to be careful how I move forward with this.

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PostSubject: Re: Purpose Built Race Cars   Fri Aug 02, 2013 6:29 am

There is plenty of room.  You can force stock upgrades or allow certain stage restrictors and extra tire width.
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PostSubject: Re: Purpose Built Race Cars   Fri Aug 02, 2013 7:04 am

The PI limit for R2 is 875.  For example, the Takata Dome NSX starts at 859 stock.  Even with only 3 paramaters for upgrades there is still lots of room.  You can allow a specific stage restrictor/tire width/and rim style for those that "need" extra PI. Or you can force stock upgrades for those that are more skilled.  The upgrades allowed for this proposed class needs to be determined by officials and not left up to individual racers.  The R2 class cars are skewed with some having close to 600+ while others have around that 500 number or can be adjusted to 500ish with upgrades.  See below for the list of other cars that could be grouped together:

#126 2003 Viper GTS-R
#3 2004 Corvette Racing C5.R
#4 2006 Corvette Racing C6.R
#15 2005 Masereati MC12
#7 2006 Aston Martin DBR9
#9 2008 Aston Martin DBR9
#17 2003 Pagani Zonda GR
#2 2003 Saleen S7R
#43 1997 McLaren F1 GTR
#41 1998 Mclaren F1 GTR
#32 1998 Nissan R390 GT1

These cars have around 600 +/-.  Even though these are also R2 cars, their build, stats, and "league" is different from the previous cars I mentioned.  If you try a mix and match of these two lists, the imbalance is going to be insane.  

Certain production cars I listed in the previous list don't have the same options as the purpose built race cars but have similar performance values.  

I omitted the mention of the following cars because they either don't fit into purpose built race cars or they are just too crazy and would blow everything away or some other reason.  They are:

#91 200 Dodge Viper GTS-R (too much horsepower)

#26 1998 Porsche AG 911 GT1-98 (doesn't really fit into either sub group in terms of HP, but if included should be in the second  lvl 2 group)

2011 Bugatti Veyron (stupid and not competitive on race tracks with turns, not to mention the 1000+ HP)

1989 Ferrari f40 Competizione (780 HP AND not a purpose built race car)

2008 Koenigsegg CCGT* (This one does have a similar performance standard as the group of cars mentioned above, but it's not wholly purpose built for racing)

2008 Mazda Furai & 2011 Radical SR8 RX (they cars have too little adjustability combined with being too light)

2010 Pagani Zonda R (Over 700 HP and not purpose built race car)

1996 Ferrari F50 GT (Over 700 HP and not purpose built race car)


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PostSubject: Re: Purpose Built Race Cars   Fri Aug 02, 2013 7:13 am

Even though R2 is a whole car class, it is really 3 classes put together:


Purpose Built for Racing "lvl 1"

#8 Audi ABT TT-R
#5 Team Phoenix Astra V8
#2-6 2011 Audi Touring Car (5 Skins)
Mercedes AMG C-Class Touring Car
#6 Exxon Superflo Supra
#6, #25, #1 2010 Lexus Sc430 (3 Skins)
#12 Calsonic Skyline
#3, #24, #23 2008 Nissan GT-R
#12 2010 Nissan GT-R
Forza Motorsport Genesis Coupe
#18 Takata Dome NSX

Main class characteristic (468-500 HP)
In real life most of these cars fit in the GT500 and DTM classification although they have since been unified



Purpose built for Racing "lvl 2"

#126 2003 Viper GTS-R
#3 2004 Corvette Racing C5.R
#4 2006 Corvette Racing C6.R
#15 2005 Masereati MC12
#7 2006 Aston Martin DBR9
#9 2008 Aston Martin DBR9
#17 2003 Pagani Zonda GR
#2 2003 Saleen S7R
#43 1997 McLaren F1 GTR
#41 1998 Mclaren F1 GTR
#32 1998 Nissan R390 GT1

Main class characteristic (591-631 HP)
In real life most of these (all if I'm not mistaken) cars fit into the GT1 category



Etc

2011 Bugatti Veyron
1989 Ferrari f40 Competizione
2008 Koenigsegg CCGT
2008 Mazda Furai
2011 Radical SR8 RX
2010 Pagani Zonda R
1996 Ferrari F50 GT
#91 200 Dodge Viper GTS-R
#26 1998 Porsche AG 911 GT1-98


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PostSubject: Re: Purpose Built Race Cars   Fri Aug 02, 2013 7:56 am

If not R2, then the class would need to be R1. We already have GT2 cars racing with the series standard "GT" cars. To separate the two would be kind of redundant don't you think?
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PostSubject: Re: Purpose Built Race Cars   Tue Aug 20, 2013 4:43 pm

make sure that darn zr1 racecar is in there and not in gt class
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PostSubject: Re: Purpose Built Race Cars   Tue Aug 20, 2013 10:22 pm

I SWEAR if 11 other people choose the C6.R GT1 next season...
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PostSubject: Re: Purpose Built Race Cars   Wed Aug 21, 2013 12:27 am

The ZR1 racecar will pull double duty in GT at the current 752 base PI and in GTR at a base PI of 785. Both of course have the ability to be performance balanced. And as always, any racer who remains in the same car from this season into the next season carries their PI over to start the following season.

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PostSubject: Re: Purpose Built Race Cars   Wed Aug 21, 2013 2:36 am

if that 98 gt1 porsche was ever included idk what i would do because i would never be able to choose.
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