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Would you be interested in particapating in a Classic Le Mans series?
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PostSubject: Vintage Le Mans Series   Wed Nov 09, 2011 5:24 pm

I have been thinking about looking into starting a Le Mans series where cars prior to say the mid 70's could be used. I was thinking of a race were you would see the Ferrari 250 Testa Rossa, Ford GT40, the Jaguar D-Type, and the Aston Martin( cant remember the name sorry). Maybe make some PI adjustments to balance them out for competitive racing.

Let me know what you guys think as I am open for Ideas. I have never run a league and such but maybe just running some exhibitions may get more people interested and on board.
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PostSubject: Re: Vintage Le Mans Series   Thu Nov 10, 2011 3:51 pm

If it has the words 'Vintage' or 'Le Mans' I'm in.
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PostSubject: Re: Vintage Le Mans Series   Sun Nov 13, 2011 7:26 am

That sounds cool...I would would to recreate those races
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PostSubject: Re: Vintage Le Mans Series   Sun Nov 13, 2011 12:00 pm

Yes.
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PostSubject: Re: Vintage Le Mans Series   Sun Nov 13, 2011 2:17 pm

Do you guys think it should be only like a GT series or should it be 2 classes( if there were enough of us)? Say a touring car class?
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PostSubject: Re: Vintage Le Mans Series   Mon Nov 14, 2011 8:33 am

Either is good for me! More racing!
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PostSubject: Re: Vintage Le Mans Series   Mon Nov 14, 2011 10:20 am

Alright I have a ton of work due in most of my classes before thanksgiving. So I'll start getting into setting it up after that.
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PostSubject: Re: Vintage Le Mans Series   Mon Nov 14, 2011 2:52 pm

There are enough period cars to possibly split it into 2 (or maybe 3?) classes. I think we can do up to 4.

Class 1
'54 Mercedes (?)
'56 Jag D-type
'57 Ferrari TR
'58 Aston DBR-1
'60 Corvette C1 (?)

Class 2
'61 Jag E-Type
'64 Aston DB5 (?)
'64 Ferrari GTO
'65 Shelby Daytona

Class 3
'66 Ford GT40
'67 Ferrari 330 P4
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PostSubject: Re: Vintage Le Mans Series   Mon Nov 14, 2011 8:29 pm

DirtyDawg73 wrote:
There are enough period cars to possibly split it into 2 (or maybe 3?) classes. I think we can do up to 4.

Class 1
'54 Mercedes (?)
'56 Jag D-type
'57 Ferrari TR
'58 Aston DBR-1
'60 Corvette C1 (?)

Class 2
'61 Jag E-Type
'64 Aston DB5 (?)
'64 Ferrari GTO
'65 Shelby Daytona

Class 3
'66 Ford GT40
'67 Ferrari 330 P4

Thats sounds like a good car list to me, ill think about any other possibilities.
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PostSubject: Re: Vintage Le Mans Series   Mon Nov 14, 2011 9:08 pm

I want to be in the GT40.
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PostSubject: Re: Vintage Le Mans Series   Mon Nov 14, 2011 9:55 pm

I wouldn't get to set on your car just yet we would need at least 16 for me to consider more than two class which still need to be figured out.
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PostSubject: Re: Vintage Le Mans Series   Mon Nov 14, 2011 10:14 pm

I'm only racing in this if I can do the GT40. I don't really care for any of the other cars. GT40 is a classic Le Mans car anyway, it would be weird to run a series without it.
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PostSubject: Re: Vintage Le Mans Series   Mon Nov 14, 2011 10:19 pm

Am I allowed to say that the GT40 in Forza is a piece of crap? I love it in real life though I swear Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Vintage Le Mans Series   Mon Nov 14, 2011 10:22 pm

The GT40 is one of the most recognized entry's ever to race at Le Man, No doubt about that. But as of right now Im not orginized enough to set people into classes when they haven't been figured out yet. I will let you know once the series gets off the ground.
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PostSubject: Re: Vintage Le Mans Series   Tue Nov 15, 2011 11:39 am

as long as a corvette is raceable ill be there
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PostSubject: Subject: Vintage Le Mans Series Wed Nov 09, 2011 6:24 pm   Tue Nov 15, 2011 2:54 pm

good idea! I M in!
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PostSubject: Re: Vintage Le Mans Series   Tue Nov 15, 2011 3:36 pm

We should all try to get in a lobby and try each car on the list. And see how they work in relation to each other.

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PostSubject: Re: Vintage Le Mans Series   Tue Nov 15, 2011 5:15 pm

Honestly, you (the admin of the series) should run 5 or so good laps with each car after they've been tuned, average the times and see how those compare. Then make PI adjustments until the lap times are near identical. No further PI tweaks and have the rest be up to driver skill.

That would undoubtedly take too much time though, which is why Pred has gone the way of making PI adjustments based on driver skill more than the car itself.


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PostSubject: Re: Vintage Le Mans Series   Tue Nov 15, 2011 5:32 pm

what sucks is that most of these cars are the most expensive in the game
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PostSubject: Re: Vintage Le Mans Series   Tue Nov 15, 2011 8:03 pm

Veevee wrote:
Honestly, you (the admin of the series) should run 5 or so good laps with each car after they've been tuned, average the times and see how those compare. Then make PI adjustments until the lap times are near identical. No further PI tweaks and have the rest be up to driver skill.

That would undoubtedly take too much time though, which is why Pred has gone the way of making PI adjustments based on driver skill more than the car itself.


VeeVee: It would be a lot of work but definitely the most effective way of doing things. Then after make driver PI adjustments.

Basticle: Thats how it goes unfortunately. I might not even get to be in the car I want to. that will diversify the field which is what I am hoping for. Seeing 8 Gt40s in a race isn't a good thing. and the most expensive car doesn't necessarily mean it will be the fastest.

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PostSubject: Re: Vintage Le Mans Series   Wed Nov 16, 2011 2:51 am

Shelby Daytona

390 hp
241 trq
2300pounds
53%
5.7 L

7.3
5.0
7.7
6.1
4.7

Ferrari GTO

300 hp
216 trq
2479 pds
52%
3.0L


6.6
4.8
7.0
5.3
4.5

65 Shelby Cobra

425 Hp
500 lb-ft
2350LBS
52%
7.0

5.7
4.6
8.1
7.0
4.5

DB5 Vantage

325 HP
288lb-ft
3230lbs
51%
4.0l

4.9
4.2
6.4
6.7
4.1

58 DBR1

254HP
247lb-ft
1930LBS
52%
3.0L

6.9
4.1
7.2
5.6
3.9

67 Vette

435Hp
460LB-FT
3384 LBS
46%
7.0L

5.0
3.9
7.3
6.3
3.9

57 250 TR

300HP
223LB-FT
2028LBS
52%
3.0L

5.7
3.5
7.3
6.4

67 330 P4

464HP
385 LB-FT
1967LBS
40%
4.0L

7.9
4.9
8.8
8.1
4.8


GT40MKII

485HP
475LB-FT
2682 LBS
38%
7.0L

7.2
5.1
8.0
6.2
5.1

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PostSubject: Re: Vintage Le Mans Series   Wed Nov 16, 2011 5:40 am

Well you can see two classes already by horsepower!
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PostSubject: Re: Vintage Le Mans Series   Wed Nov 16, 2011 2:26 pm

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Well you can see two classes already by horsepower!

depends on how fast they go and not how much power they have since speed and HP numbers dont always go together in Forza.
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PostSubject: Re: Vintage Le Mans Series   Wed Nov 16, 2011 5:46 pm

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rainmaker2484 wrote:
Well you can see two classes already by horsepower!

depends on how fast they go and not how much power they have since speed and HP numbers dont always go together in Forza.

The numbers are deceiving. I ran the 330 P4 Ferrari againts the GT40MKII and it wasnt even close. When in real life that was a classic battle with Ford on top. I gotta work on the PI adjustments.

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PostSubject: Re: Vintage Le Mans Series   Mon Nov 21, 2011 1:55 pm

If anyone is interested in running some test on the cars in the series this week please let me know. Id like to get the series going after New Years but I need an idea of what the cars can do so i can begin construction restrictions and classes.

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