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We're 100% good with this.
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Never really been a fan of the GTX ( esk ) idea, where it limits tuning to online lobbies with specific settings, and creates a hastle for the tuner to back out and change and re connect, and all that ( thanks again forza ) all while separating an already roughly even class..
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Also if you think that by adding the race cars it will produce an uneven class where you will have to vamp up your own car to prevent a runaway. then welcome to how I felt and why I left 3 Seasons ago when you announced a 20+ PI jump to the spec in regards to forza 4's release, eliminating my chance to compete as corvette racer.

Do as I say, Not as I Do kind of thing huh...
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SSRT DWilkerson wrote:
We're 100% good with this.

I will confirm this offer within 24 hours.

If these cars are approved and allowed those who choose them do so knowing that there is minimal room for PI adjustment. Minimal PI adjustment will be given. And the rule regarding a car change will be adjusted for these cars to read as such. A driver who chooses a purpose built race car and begins the season in one of these cars has ONLY the first two races of the season to change cars. If that change is granted then the normal car change rule will apply. After the second race there is absolutely no change out of these cars. This is also non negotiable.

2013 Viper GTS-R would be 747PI and be restricted -5% handling
2011 Chevrolet Corvette Racing ZR1 would 750 and be restricted -5% handling
2009 BMW RL Racing M3 GT3 would be 753 restricted -5% handling
2010 Jaguar RSR XKR GT would be 749PI restricted -5% handling
2005 Panoz Esperante GTLM would be 748PI restricted -5% handling
2007 Porsche FL 911 GT3-RSR 753PI restricted -5% handling
* those currently in the ZR1 are grandfatherd in to their current PI should they choose to return in Season 9 in the same car. However they will now receive the -5% handicap the car will be grouped in.*

The above listed cars are THE ONLY PURPOSE BUILT RACE CARS THAT WILL BE CONSIDERED. IF YOU DO NOT SEE IT HERE IT WILL NOT BE CONSIDERED.

All cars will not be classified anything other than GT. The only change will be the cars will just be grouped in the race rooms so as to receive their proper handicap adjustment.

Something Like
GT
G T
GT class
GS
This would be how the multi- class room would work. All GT, G T and GT Class would be in the Red group and GS would still remain in the Green group.


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On your comment metal. I am not concerned with that. The only reason we run slightly higher PI on F4 is because at the lower PI we ran on F3 the cars are much slower as are the lap times. As series CEO and organizer it has always been about producing times close to ALMS times on the tracks they run. Which we do right now on most tracks for GT. Now this series is not an ALMS clone. Never has been. If that was my intention season 1 would have been only race cars. It was not. We have elements of ALMS here, elements of PWC here, elements of Grand Am here. I have taken ideas from all of these series and created what we know as the Forza SPORT CAR Series. Key word is SPORTS CAR. We take the SPORTS CAR and turn it into a Race Car. That is THIS series.
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Sorry....I am trying to really understand this arguement. I not a car guy so someone will have to explain all this stuff to me when season 9 starts....


So the Evora Race Car is not included right
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Basicblaq wrote:
Sorry....I am trying to really understand this arguement. I not a car guy so someone will have to explain all this stuff to me when season 9 starts....


So the Evora Race Car is not included right

Basically, Pred wants it to be sports car not race car, some manufacturers dont have anything competitive to offer that isnt a race model so he is including some with a small grip handicap. And i dont know if there is anything that is GT that Lotus has besides that car. I know he said that there isnt anything else he would add to that list but perhaps he over looked that manufacturer?
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Basic...um have you been on the website? the car list is there in all its glory. You can see for yourself EVERY car that is available. http://forzascs.com/CarPIBuild.html
To make it easy for you...The car you speak of has always been available since season 6.
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Admin/PredatorUSMC wrote:
Basic...um have you been on the website? the car list is there in all its glory. You can see for yourself EVERY car that is available. http://forzascs.com/CarPIBuild.html
To make it easy for you...The car you speak of has always been available since season 6.

I think he is thrown off because you said no race variants and that is a half way race variant.
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Ok. No not that car. We are discussing cars that were listed above in this thread.
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These are the race cars above 745 PI and have little room to move.
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Car list updated. Hit F5 when you go to the website page.
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got to say that was actually a really good solution.
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PostSubject: Re: In reply....   In reply.... - Page 2 Icon_minitimeSat Nov 10, 2012 8:31 pm

cheers Thank you! Boost has bought the car pack and we've gotten to work.

Off topic suggestion, The number boxes and class logos could use a little black outline because they just kind of blend in without one when put on a white car. Already outlined mine. Other then they look good. Smile
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SSRT DWilkerson wrote:
And FYI, the '13 Viper GTS was a pig of a car and was terrible to drive. The only reason I drove it was because it looked good.

It was fast because Prone, Boost and Myself drove it, and, aside from the ACR, no one has ever done good with a Viper in this series in FM4. (We don't count Matt and Bimmer, because they're freaks. Laughing )

lol!
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