RESTART POLL SEASON X

That being said, if the alms does a restart for half a class being taken out we could too. Just move those wrecked to the back of the grid.

Dr PiiHB wrote:

That being said, if the alms does a restart for half a class being taken out we could too. Just move those wrecked to the back of the grid.

I am in favor of moving the people involved to the rear *if* there is restart.

SaintedPlacebo4 wrote:

Dr PiiHB wrote:

Basicblaq wrote:

I think from when the GS car say Go Go Go.. There should be no restarts....if U want to make it a real sim like feeling ..then no restarts period...Lets do it like the real boys do..race with the damage LOL

If we go this real with it, we might as well consider lag to be mechanical failure. Even if it happens at the very beginning. That Boo boo happens for real.

it does. I was thinking about that the ther night. lag=mech failure and lag out (not to own room but completely)= blown motor. as long as i look at it that way i guess im okay with it.

A that ranting you made the other day telling me I'm wrong and it won't work and blahhhhh blahhhhh blahhhhh. Now its ok. Thanks, you just made my day sainted. I just made some cha ching.

Hiredgun308 wrote:

SaintedPlacebo4 wrote:

Dr PiiHB wrote:

Basicblaq wrote:

I think from when the GS car say Go Go Go.. There should be no restarts....if U want to make it a real sim like feeling ..then no restarts period...Lets do it like the real boys do..race with the damage LOL

If we go this real with it, we might as well consider lag to be mechanical failure. Even if it happens at the very beginning. That Boo boo happens for real.

it does. I was thinking about that the ther night. lag=mech failure and lag out (not to own room but completely)= blown motor. as long as i look at it that way i guess im okay with it.

A that ranting you made the other day telling me I'm wrong and it won't work and blahhhhh blahhhhh blahhhhh. Now its ok. Thanks, you just made my day sainted. I just made some cha ching.

oh you went there. zero tolerance doesnt work. it doesnt. no restart rule or not there will be at leat one restart this up coming season just you watch

Dr PiiHB wrote:

Basicblaq wrote:

I think from when the GS car say Go Go Go.. There should be no restarts....if U want to make it a real sim like feeling ..then no restarts period...Lets do it like the real boys do..race with the damage LOL

If we go this real with it, we might as well consider lag to be mechanical failure. Even if it happens at the very beginning. That Boo boo happens for real.

I agree with piihb lagging out and lag incidents should be treated like normal race failures. I mean if you take sim racing seriously enough like most of us here do I think proper precautions on bandwidth usage and proper speeds should be something we look for. If everyone has good enough connections the lag can be reduced dramatically. Plus this type of unpredictable failures happen all the timr IRL.

SaintedPlacebo4 wrote:

Hiredgun308 wrote:

SaintedPlacebo4 wrote:

Dr PiiHB wrote:

Basicblaq wrote:

I think from when the GS car say Go Go Go.. There should be no restarts....if U want to make it a real sim like feeling ..then no restarts period...Lets do it like the real boys do..race with the damage LOL

If we go this real with it, we might as well consider lag to be mechanical failure. Even if it happens at the very beginning. That Boo boo happens for real.

it does. I was thinking about that the ther night. lag=mech failure and lag out (not to own room but completely)= blown motor. as long as i look at it that way i guess im okay with it.

A that ranting you made the other day telling me I'm wrong and it won't work and blahhhhh blahhhhh blahhhhh. Now its ok. Thanks, you just made my day sainted. I just made some cha ching.

oh you went there. zero tolerance doesnt work. it doesnt. no restart rule or not there will be at leat one restart this up coming season just you watch

No you went there.
First of you called it zero tolerance not me I said there cant be any grey area.
For your zero tolerance don't work. There is zero tolerance for intentional wrecking. If you do you are kicked from the series. That works. How about mandatory parts you have to have them on your car to race in the series, that would be zero tolerance you don't have them you get penalized. That works. Changing of build without a PI adjust zero tolerance you get a penalty if you do it and get caught no questions asked. That works. Those rules are clear and have no grey area or your zero tolerance.

Hiredgun308 wrote:

SaintedPlacebo4 wrote:

Hiredgun308 wrote:

SaintedPlacebo4 wrote:

Dr PiiHB wrote:

Basicblaq wrote:

I think from when the GS car say Go Go Go.. There should be no restarts....if U want to make it a real sim like feeling ..then no restarts period...Lets do it like the real boys do..race with the damage LOL

If we go this real with it, we might as well consider lag to be mechanical failure. Even if it happens at the very beginning. That Boo boo happens for real.

it does. I was thinking about that the ther night. lag=mech failure and lag out (not to own room but completely)= blown motor. as long as i look at it that way i guess im okay with it.

A that ranting you made the other day telling me I'm wrong and it won't work and blahhhhh blahhhhh blahhhhh. Now its ok. Thanks, you just made my day sainted. I just made some cha ching.

oh you went there. zero tolerance doesnt work. it doesnt. no restart rule or not there will be at leat one restart this up coming season just you watch

No you went there.
First of you called it zero tolerance not me I said there cant be any grey area.
For your zero tolerance don't work. There is zero tolerance for intentional wrecking. If you do you are kicked from the series. That works. How about mandatory parts you have to have them on your car to race in the series, that would be zero tolerance you don't have them you get penalized. That works. Changing of build without a PI adjust zero tolerance you get a penalty if you do it and get caught no questions asked. That works. Those rules are clear and have no grey area or your zero tolerance.

When Ched ran drags on accident he wasnt banned. Looks like a grey area to me.

QlutchElectro wrote:

Dr PiiHB wrote:

Basicblaq wrote:

I think from when the GS car say Go Go Go.. There should be no restarts....if U want to make it a real sim like feeling ..then no restarts period...Lets do it like the real boys do..race with the damage LOL

If we go this real with it, we might as well consider lag to be mechanical failure. Even if it happens at the very beginning. That Boo boo happens for real.

I agree with piihb lagging out and lag incidents should be treated like normal race failures. I mean if you take sim racing seriously enough like most of us here do I think proper precautions on bandwidth usage and proper speeds should be something we look for. If everyone has good enough connections the lag can be reduced dramatically. Plus this type of unpredictable failures happen all the timr IRL.

I totally agree with this

Option 2

I agree with is 1 restart for lag or damage caused in the first lap after 1 min of Go Go Go. Then have anyone involved start at the back of GS

Qlutch, you may have a good point. It was obvious in practice and the races how much less lag we had between us after we both improved our connections.

Option 2 sounds decent. This change would put pressure on us to upgrade our internet I believe. (especially GT) However, in my experience, higher speeds do not always improve reliability. I think lag and service provider issues will continue to have some effect no matter what, but making efforts to reduce them may still improve competition.

I think location has something to do with it also. I had issues at first. Once I moved to a bigger city it got much better Now we can play two Xboxs and stream netflix for the kid with zero lag. It makes a big difference I have found.

As for Ched on the Drag slicks, He got penalized. Not to mention how poorly his car performed after about 4 laps.

bigdutyDMomoney wrote:

Qlutch, you may have a good point. It was obvious in practice and the races how much less lag we had between us after we both improved our connections.

Option 2 sounds decent. This change would put pressure on us to upgrade our internet I believe. (especially GT) However, in my experience, higher speeds do not always improve reliability. I think lag and service provider issues will continue to have some effect no matter what, but making efforts to reduce them may still improve competition.

I am just saying this cause before the green flag goes I kick everyone in my house off the net and hardwire the box to my modem and eliminate wifi in general . If we all did this lagging rooms won't happen. It's for a few hours a week I am sure other people can handle it if my roomies can

QlutchElectro wrote:

bigdutyDMomoney wrote:

Qlutch, you may have a good point. It was obvious in practice and the races how much less lag we had between us after we both improved our connections.

Option 2 sounds decent. This change would put pressure on us to upgrade our internet I believe. (especially GT) However, in my experience, higher speeds do not always improve reliability. I think lag and service provider issues will continue to have some effect no matter what, but making efforts to reduce them may still improve competition.

I am just saying this cause before the green flag goes I kick everyone in my house off the net and hardwire the box to my modem and eliminate wifi in general . If we all did this lagging rooms won't happen. It's for a few hours a week I am sure other people can handle it if my roomies can

you know whats strange? how often are we all on here in different groups practicing for hours.... how many times does someone lag out? once? maybe twice? how about during quali rooms when there are 16 people in a room, yet no one jsut goes BOOP! and disappears. its just kind of weird, maybe because the races are around prime time for America? Hmm i dont know just a thought that maybe that when their servers are most full?

SaintedPlacebo4 wrote:

QlutchElectro wrote:

bigdutyDMomoney wrote:

Qlutch, you may have a good point. It was obvious in practice and the races how much less lag we had between us after we both improved our connections.

Option 2 sounds decent. This change would put pressure on us to upgrade our internet I believe. (especially GT) However, in my experience, higher speeds do not always improve reliability. I think lag and service provider issues will continue to have some effect no matter what, but making efforts to reduce them may still improve competition.

I am just saying this cause before the green flag goes I kick everyone in my house off the net and hardwire the box to my modem and eliminate wifi in general . If we all did this lagging rooms won't happen. It's for a few hours a week I am sure other people can handle it if my roomies can

you know whats strange? how often are we all on here in different groups practicing for hours.... how many times does someone lag out? once? maybe twice? how about during quali rooms when there are 16 people in a room, yet no one jsut goes BOOP! and disappears. its just kind of weird, maybe because the races are around prime time for America? Hmm i dont know just a thought that maybe that when their servers are most full?

Ya know your do have a valid point that could be a factor too

QlutchElectro wrote:

SaintedPlacebo4 wrote:

you know whats strange? how often are we all on here in different groups practicing for hours.... how many times does someone lag out? once? maybe twice? how about during quali rooms when there are 16 people in a room, yet no one jsut goes BOOP! and disappears. its just kind of weird, maybe because the races are around prime time for America? Hmm i dont know just a thought that maybe that when their servers are most full?

Ya know your do have a valid point that could be a factor too

I wonder if using a host that is not in prime time would resolve the issue or not.

No1 Tommy Smurf wrote:

QlutchElectro wrote:

SaintedPlacebo4 wrote:

you know whats strange? how often are we all on here in different groups practicing for hours.... how many times does someone lag out? once? maybe twice? how about during quali rooms when there are 16 people in a room, yet no one jsut goes BOOP! and disappears. its just kind of weird, maybe because the races are around prime time for America? Hmm i dont know just a thought that maybe that when their servers are most full?

Ya know your do have a valid point that could be a factor too

I wonder if using a host that is not in prime time would resolve the issue or not.

Might cause issues because we are connecting to a far away server?

SaintedPlacebo4 wrote:

No1 Tommy Smurf wrote:

QlutchElectro wrote:

SaintedPlacebo4 wrote:

you know whats strange? how often are we all on here in different groups practicing for hours.... how many times does someone lag out? once? maybe twice? how about during quali rooms when there are 16 people in a room, yet no one jsut goes BOOP! and disappears. its just kind of weird, maybe because the races are around prime time for America? Hmm i dont know just a thought that maybe that when their servers are most full?

Ya know your do have a valid point that could be a factor too

I wonder if using a host that is not in prime time would resolve the issue or not.

Might cause issues because we are connecting to a far away server?

But if you are sending choppy data it could slower down servers as well connections need to be good through out the circuit to achieve best results

QlutchElectro wrote:

SaintedPlacebo4 wrote:

No1 Tommy Smurf wrote:

QlutchElectro wrote:

SaintedPlacebo4 wrote:

you know whats strange? how often are we all on here in different groups practicing for hours.... how many times does someone lag out? once? maybe twice? how about during quali rooms when there are 16 people in a room, yet no one jsut goes BOOP! and disappears. its just kind of weird, maybe because the races are around prime time for America? Hmm i dont know just a thought that maybe that when their servers are most full?

Ya know your do have a valid point that could be a factor too

I wonder if using a host that is not in prime time would resolve the issue or not.

Might cause issues because we are connecting to a far away server?

But if you are sending choppy data it could slower down servers as well connections need to be good through out the circuit to achieve best results

I got it guys. Lets all meet up in the middle of the country each Sunday and just system link all our consoles. Our British friends can meet up over there and then we can compare times to get the finishing grid. This should effectively eliminate any lag issues. You all are welcome.

lmfaoooo. we're just thinking bout different issues and perhaps a possible solution if there is one, relax xD

I agree with hired about if there is a no restart policy then no matter what there should be no restarts lag or not. The 1 minute deadline should be enforced AFTER gs starts. So many times this past season GT needed restarts before GS even started so that would actually give GS a chance to race. I did vote to keep the current policy though.

Think of all the lag I'm going to have running two consoles on the same connection..