SEASON 12 RACE 4 LAGUNA SECA / MAZDA RACEWAY

RR Chelsea wrote:

So what is the holdup why are the results not right or not done. we should be doing our qualifying for this weeks racing not waiting to see what our PI adjustment is. It really is getting a little crazy around here now

I hear you, if your livery isn't right you will definitely
get an immediate response, other than that it's hurry up and wait.

Yep, I really feel like we should be qualifying by now. Would get up and start a lobby for early qualifying but I don't know anybodies updated PI yet.

Nobody knows anyones PI cause they aint posted yet, which is my point. Qualification for GTLM closes at midnght Friday, whicH doesn't leave us a whole lotta time to sort out what we gonna do with the PI he gives us or then get used to the car. THIS JUST AINT RIGHT PRED

ya kinda hard to start getting your car ready if you don't even know what your running/what your build is.

THERE IS ANOTHER QUESTION TOO. why did GS a room run 50 laps when it seems like everyone else, including those that preraced, run 35 laps?

RR Chelsea wrote:

THERE IS ANOTHER QUESTION TOO. why did GS a room run 50 laps when it seems like everyone else, including those that preraced, run 35 laps?

Dunno really but GS either needs to do 40 laps everywhere save LeMans and Nurb or do 40 laps on shorter tracks, Laguna, Nurb short, Road Atlanta and 35 laps on longer tracks like Suzuka or Road America

Please read The Separate post. This will answer most of your questions. This will clarify some of the issues and problems also.https://forzascs.forumotion.net/t1343-results-room-host-updates-admin-general

Tachyon Racing wrote:

RR Russ Wheeler wrote:

is anything updated yet?  it is thursday ?????  

Once the final results are verified and posted, I will do the Team, Marque, Amateur and Rookie standings.

thanks 4 the answer Tachyon..

Admin/PredatorUSMC wrote:

Please read The Separate post. This will answer most of your questions. This will clarify some of the issues and problems also.https://forzascs.forumotion.net/t1343-results-room-host-updates-admin-general

All clear!

Any help you need, let me know!

Still a little hazy....
1st.posts should not be erased because tach feels like it...things are brought up in public FOR THE PUBLIC!!! "Aside from smack talk

2nd. As drivers we accept responsibility for our actions ...admins should do the same not just hide and erase

3rd. I enjoy this league and would/have tried to help ...though my grammer my make eyes bleed the things i say have been tested/homework done before i posted

4th. All of this could have been taking care of preseason but D, T, P, thought they were to good to listen...well now you have no choice as drivers/teams and series regulars are now fed up with fscs...it is either fix it or its over

Thank you for your post pred but not all the blame is on you...

I'm just curious as how to le mans is going to work for the drivers that run 4 cars.

All the above is true, but the lifeblood of any series is it's drivers and we still don't know what our PI is for the next race, so can't setup our cars or do our qualification, which still leaves us in limbo. This situation needs sorting now not tomorrow or next week. When will we see the real results from last weeks racing so we can move forward?

ROSCOEpCOTRAIN wrote:

Still a little hazy....
1st.posts should not be erased because tach feels like it...things are brought up in public FOR THE PUBLIC!!! "Aside from smack talk

2nd. As drivers we accept responsibility for our actions ...admins should do the same not just hide and erase

3rd. I enjoy this league and would/have tried to help ...though my grammer my make eyes bleed the things i say have been tested/homework done before i posted

4th. All of this could have been taking care of preseason but D, T, P, thought they were to good to listen...well now you have no choice as drivers/teams and series regulars are now fed up with fscs...it is either fix it or its over

Thank you for your post pred but not all the blame is on you...

most of the blame should be on him.. hes the boss....

Admin/PredatorUSMC wrote:

Please read The Separate post. This will answer most of your questions. This will clarify some of the issues and problems also.https://forzascs.forumotion.net/t1343-results-room-host-updates-admin-general

This really doesn't answer any of the very real problems you have at the moment. Without the PI's posted no one can setup their cars for the next race. We are down almost to24 hours to go till qualifying closes for the GTLM class. I for one have already lostb out this season, namely last week, because someone could not be timely enough to get my qualifying done. now this week we have the whole feild waiting for PI's. As you so rightly say this could have been all done by tuesday. So why isn't it. It's your site, it's your series done your way. So get it sorted.

ROSCOEpCOTRAIN wrote:

Still a little hazy....
1st.posts should not be erased because tach feels like it...things are brought up in public FOR THE PUBLIC!!! "Aside from smack talk

2nd. As drivers we accept responsibility for our actions ...admins should do the same not just hide and erase

3rd. I enjoy this league and would/have tried to help ...though my grammer my make eyes bleed the things i say have been tested/homework done before i posted

4th. All of this could have been taking care of preseason but D, T, P, thought they were to good to listen...well now you have no choice as drivers/teams and series regulars are now fed up with fscs...it is either fix it or its over

Thank you for your post pred but not all the blame is on you...

Not sure why you are roping me into one of your rants again.  I do not organize anything - I just help out with stats once the racing's done and moderate the Forum a little, as my job allows me to have it open in the background most of the day.  But, since you're calling me out once more, and my attempts to talk to you privately seem to have fallen on deaf ears, I am going to comment publicly.  Your belligerence on the Forum towards other drivers and the Admins is distasteful and boring.  And as I had suggested to you, it is apparently causing people to think twice about racing here [yes, you have been referenced specifically by potential entrants who changed their minds].  What more needs to be said for you to get the point?  When I first joined here, there was a lot of friendly banter and camaraderie, and made me want to take part.  These days the Forum is largely unpleasant and disrespectful bashing and trash-talking.  Much of it centering around you.  Whatever may be going on with the Series, and regardless of whether you have good intentions or not, the way you are treating many other people on here is disrespectful and needs to stop.

Tachyon Racing wrote:

ROSCOEpCOTRAIN wrote:

Still a little hazy....
1st.posts should not be erased because tach feels like it...things are brought up in public FOR THE PUBLIC!!! "Aside from smack talk

2nd. As drivers we accept responsibility for our actions ...admins should do the same not just hide and erase

3rd. I enjoy this league and would/have tried to help ...though my grammer my make eyes bleed the things i say have been tested/homework done before i posted

4th. All of this could have been taking care of preseason but D, T, P, thought they were to good to listen...well now you have no choice as drivers/teams and series regulars are now fed up with fscs...it is either fix it or its over

Thank you for your post pred but not all the blame is on you...

Not sure why you are roping me into one of your rants again.  I do not organize anything - I just help out with stats once the racing's done and moderate the Forum a little, as my job allows me to have it open in the background most of the day.  But, since you're calling me out once more, and my attempts to talk to you privately seem to have fallen on deaf ears, I am going to comment publicly.  Your belligerence on the Forum towards other drivers and the Admins is distasteful and boring.  And as I had suggested to you, it is apparently causing people to think twice about racing here [yes, you have been referenced specifically by potential entrants who changed their minds].  What more needs to be said for you to get the point?  When I first joined here, there was a lot of friendly banter and camaraderie, and made me want to take part.  These days the Forum is largely unpleasant and disrespectful bashing and trash-talking.  Much of it centering around you.  Whatever may be going on with the Series, and regardless of whether you have good intentions or not, the way you are treating many other people on here is disrespectful and needs to stop.

+1

Tachyon Racing wrote:

ROSCOEpCOTRAIN wrote:

Still a little hazy....
1st.posts should not be erased because tach feels like it...things are brought up in public FOR THE PUBLIC!!! "Aside from smack talk

2nd. As drivers we accept responsibility for our actions ...admins should do the same not just hide and erase

3rd. I enjoy this league and would/have tried to help ...though my grammer my make eyes bleed the things i say have been tested/homework done before i posted

4th. All of this could have been taking care of preseason but D, T, P, thought they were to good to listen...well now you have no choice as drivers/teams and series regulars are now fed up with fscs...it is either fix it or its over

Thank you for your post pred but not all the blame is on you...

Not sure why you are roping me into one of your rants again.  I do not organize anything - I just help out with stats once the racing's done and moderate the Forum a little, as my job allows me to have it open in the background most of the day.  But, since you're calling me out once more, and my attempts to talk to you privately seem to have fallen on deaf ears, I am going to comment publicly.  Your belligerence on the Forum towards other drivers and the Admins is distasteful and boring.  And as I had suggested to you, it is apparently causing people to think twice about racing here [yes, you have been referenced specifically by potential entrants who changed their minds].  What more needs to be said for you to get the point?  When I first joined here, there was a lot of friendly banter and camaraderie, and made me want to take part.  These days the Forum is largely unpleasant and disrespectful bashing and trash-talking.  Much of it centering around you.  Whatever may be going on with the Series, and regardless of whether you have good intentions or not, the way you are treating many other people on here is disrespectful and needs to stop.

D, P, T, were responsible for the rush to be the first "tudor"despite all warnings.... of problems that would arise
P, was dealing with a terible loss
D, took charge failed
T, erased all problems that were brought up...still is / blobby is my babe it pains me to see three weeks of poop
.will follow up with part two when i get home

@ RR gang- obviously what I say is not official, just friendly advice so please take it as such. I would have to say your safest bet is to practice and tune at current PI and assume that it has NOT changed. If a last moment change is to occur of course your car would not be perfect but you will be closer to prepared. If you have no time late in the week to qualify I would consider PMing pred and asking if your PI has changed at all, if it has indeed NOT changed ask if there is any option for early qualifying if an official is around. Everyone in charge here has been working to make this all work but with an endless sea of complaints mashed together in a public space with no means of seperating them by relevance or importance its hard for these guys to address every issue. If you haven't come to notice EVERYTHING than gets posted as a problem of the series is of "extreme importance" so its tough to prioritize what is addressed. I'm not saying you are in the wrong, im just suggesting you consider an alternate approach. Try to maybe PM an admin/official clearly stating what your issue is and why it is a time sensitive matter to you. You may get a better response that way. Otherwise your issues or requests may just get lost as other people post pointless remarks or bogus banter surrounding your legitimate concerns.  

SP33D RAC3R 28x wrote:

@ RR gang- obviously what I say is not official, just friendly advice so please take it as such. I would have to say your safest bet is to practice and tune at current PI and assume that it has NOT changed. If a last moment change is to occur of course your car would not be perfect but you will be closer to prepared. If you have no time late in the week to qualify I would consider PMing pred and asking if your PI has changed at all, if it has indeed NOT changed ask if there is any option for early qualifying if an official is around. Everyone in charge here has been working to make this all work but with an endless sea of complaints mashed together in a public space with no means of seperating them by relevance or importance its hard for these guys to address every issue. If you haven't come to notice EVERYTHING than gets posted as a problem of the series is of "extreme importance" so its tough to prioritize what is addressed. I'm not saying you are in the wrong, im just suggesting you consider an alternate approach. Try to maybe PM an admin/official clearly stating what your issue is and why it is a time sensitive matter to you. You may get a better response that way. Otherwise your issues or requests may just get lost as other people post pointless remarks or bogus banter surrounding your legitimate concerns.  

-10

You really gotta love the way things are dealt with here, seems like if you stick you're head in the sand everything will sort itself out. In truth you gotta do something, not answering is showing ignorance on your part.

SP33D RAC3R 28x wrote:

@ RR gang- obviously what I say is not official, just friendly advice so please take it as such. I would have to say your safest bet is to practice and tune at current PI and assume that it has NOT changed. If a last moment change is to occur of course your car would not be perfect but you will be closer to prepared. If you have no time late in the week to qualify I would consider PMing pred and asking if your PI has changed at all, if it has indeed NOT changed ask if there is any option for early qualifying if an official is around. Everyone in charge here has been working to make this all work but with an endless sea of complaints mashed together in a public space with no means of seperating them by relevance or importance its hard for these guys to address every issue. If you haven't come to notice EVERYTHING than gets posted as a problem of the series is of "extreme importance" so its tough to prioritize what is addressed. I'm not saying you are in the wrong, im just suggesting you consider an alternate approach. Try to maybe PM an admin/official clearly stating what your issue is and why it is a time sensitive matter to you. You may get a better response that way. Otherwise your issues or requests may just get lost as other people post pointless remarks or bogus banter surrounding your legitimate concerns.  

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You dont know what went on last week but to keep you in the loop. I was in a party with Luongo, we messaged Pred at 2am our time, he responded by saying he would be 10 mins. I had an appointment at the hospital the next morning at 8 am, so when he still hadn't qualified us at 03.15 am I went to bed. That was how important qualifying is to him given that I now had to start at the back of lobby 2 with a 20 sec penalty, due to him not doing as he said he would.this has nothing to do with RR so why bring them into it. You as far as I know are just a racer like me, who would benefit from the series being run correctly, so stop trying to wind people up.

Not winding people up at all. Just friendly advice as I stated. I directed my message towards "RR gang" because I meant the 2 of you with the same issue here speaking on this subject. I didn't name you individually because my phone cant be bothered to scroll left once i start typing so i couldnt see your names. I am simply a racer here, not claiming to be more. My suggestion was merely an offer of information that MAY or MAY NOT help resolve your problem. I understand what happened with you last week is unfortunate and disheartening and of course I agree that it could have been handled differently. I am definitely on the side of things running more efficiently and smoother. I am not here to cause another ignorant babble fight, I'm just here offering a little advice for future use. Relax.

The fact that this happened to you last week does not change my advice. It is still your best option for possibly getting your qualifying done on time this week. Chill out, I'm here trying to help.

SP33D RAC3R 28x wrote:

Not winding people up at all. Just friendly advice as I stated. I directed my message towards "RR gang" because I meant the 2 of you with the same issue here speaking on this subject. I didn't name you individually because my phone cant be bothered to scroll left once i start typing so i couldnt see your names. I am simply a racer here, not claiming to be more. My suggestion was merely an offer of information that MAY or MAY NOT help resolve your problem. I understand what happened with you last week is unfortunate and disheartening and of course I agree that it could have been handled differently. I am definitely on the side of things running more efficiently and smoother. I am not here to cause another ignorant babble fight,  I'm just here offering a little advice for future use. Relax.

The fact that this happened to you last week does not change my advice. It is still your best option for possibly getting your qualifying done on time this week. Chill out, I'm here trying to help.

your not helping speed, no need to keep this up and it Escalate in to something bad...

Chelsea - going to make a unilateral decision here as a pseudo Race Admin and empower you to take Qual times. If Pred disagrees, we can discuss, but you've been helpful capturing replays and race info and I see no reason to object. I think this would be good for anyone in Europe or otherwise needing to be done early. Per the guidelines, you'd need to have another driver in the race with you to take your own time. Use this power wisely....   

Tachyon Racing wrote:

Chelsea - going to make a unilateral decision here as a pseudo Race Admin and empower you to take Qual times.  If Pred disagrees, we can discuss, but you've been helpful capturing replays and race info and I see no reason to object.  I think this would be good for anyone in Europe or otherwise needing to be done early.  Per the guidelines, you'd need to have another driver in the race with you to take your own time.  Use this power wisely....   

Thanks Tachyon, I always use power wisely and qualifying will be as far as it goes for me here at FSCS.