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| Subject: Re: Season 8 Race 7 Le Mans Circuit de la Sarthe 25 Laps Sat Sep 22, 2012 6:10 pm | |
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| Subject: Re: Season 8 Race 7 Le Mans Circuit de la Sarthe 25 Laps Sat Sep 22, 2012 6:28 pm | |
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SSRT_Pronebird
Posts : 81 Points : 4576 Join date : 2012-07-31
| Subject: Re: Season 8 Race 7 Le Mans Circuit de la Sarthe 25 Laps Sat Sep 22, 2012 6:35 pm | |
| Re-size the signature please...
Thank You. | |
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Matthnt
Posts : 523 Points : 5509 Join date : 2011-04-09
| Subject: Re: Season 8 Race 7 Le Mans Circuit de la Sarthe 25 Laps Sun Sep 23, 2012 12:11 am | |
| Qual was not the best for me. Race should be alright | |
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THF dvsSublime
Posts : 196 Points : 4956 Join date : 2011-11-18 Location : San Diego, Ca
| Subject: Re: Season 8 Race 7 Le Mans Circuit de la Sarthe 25 Laps Sun Sep 23, 2012 12:13 am | |
| Hahaha, god napster you are retarded | |
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Admin/PredatorUSMC Admin
Posts : 3765 Points : 9678 Join date : 2010-01-22 Location : West Coast
| Subject: Re: Season 8 Race 7 Le Mans Circuit de la Sarthe 25 Laps Sun Sep 23, 2012 1:31 am | |
| PER PRONEBIRD
1 PredatorUSMC 757 Avg. P.I. 752.6 2 METAL C6R 752 3 SSRT Pronebird 739 4 OldFenderBender 754 5 Boostbeef {R} 750 6 Speed Demon 69 752 7 SSRT DWilkerson 747 8 The LSA {R} 753 9 THF dvsSublime 757 10 Luongo27 765
As I explained before, there are MANY variables that come into play when it comes to PI. IT IS NOT based SOLELY on driver skill. You would be completely misguided if that is what you think. There are many factors that can determine on track lap times many can be tested an proven others may just be small variables not really testable. 1. Automatic Transmission - slowest 2. Manual With Clutch - fastest 3. Manual Without Clutch - mid level 4. Driving with a controller - fastest 5. Driving with a wheel - slower (more realistic and can be smoother but corrections are much slower) 6. Steering Settings Simulation - Better for controller - nearly impossible on a wheel 7. Steering Setting Normal - not good on a controller - but much better on a wheel 8. The car itself each car at the same exact PI are not the same speed or able to produce the same lap times (add the fact each track demands something different and each car's pros and con's) 9. Driving In car view 10 Driving Bumper view 11. Driving Track only view 12. Having a controller that is not linear but on/off 13. Digital controller that you can ease on the gas or brake not just on/off 14. Some people play on small TV 15. Some people play on Big TV 16. Some use ABS 17. Some don't use ABS 18. A car can be better on a specific type of track 19. A car may be deficient at a specific type of track 20. One driver may be faster but less consistent 21. One driver may not be quite as fast but more consistet 22. Another driver may be fast and super consistent 23. Just to name a few that I can think of. These are just some of the things that are not just +/- and simply quantified but have to be considered for every driver in this series.
In the end the replays can be seen, the avg lap times can be calculated, it can be seen that a racer maybe was faster but made a mistake and couldn't catch back up, or hit a wall and got damage and ran slower. Straight line speeds can be seen and recorded and compared car vs car. Cornering speed can be seen and compared car vs car. Lap times can be seen and averaged. THEN ON TOP OF ALL THE THINGS mentioned above driver skill is then an additional factor that also must be accounted for.
Picking me out means 0. I have had the car at +/- 1 PI for 6 seasons and you can see where I sit and have ended each race. I am not the fastest here and I don't claim to be. I am leading the points because I have been able to be consistent have no accidents, no contact and not 1 off track incident. Is there some kind of unwritten rule that I am not allowed to win a race or maybe even win a Championship? I race to win just like every other racer here. I have not won a race in ummm I can't remember when. I am not mad about it. It motivates me to keep going after it. You highlighting my PI to make a point means that you don't get the point.
No I should not let it bother me that you try to point out oh look here is your PI and your points leader. But, it did for a second. In the end though, I have nothing to apologize for feel like I am very fair across the board to every single racer in this series. I treat everyone with the same respect and the same fair hand.
I work my ass off to ensure that this series creates and promotes close racing among many different cars and skill levels and game settings. And to be honest this season seems to be one of the best example of that. 6 races in and the points, qualifying times and race finishes all have been some of the closest we have seen not for a race but each and every race has been closely competitive across the board. For that I am proud and if you disagree...well (shoulder shrug).
You Mr. Pronebird need to eliminate the mistakes you have made nearly every race. Your pace is there to have been top 3 or top 5 every race this season, maybe even a win. Your own undoing has caused you to not be there. There is a certain champion that raced at a lower PI since maybe season 1 or two then everyone and somehow managed to win a multitude of races. PI is a number that is more complex to calculate then you may truly understand. But in the end it should not be subjective of the driver whether the PI is 735 of 775.
You can responds to this if you like. But I have nothing further to comment about.
Thank you and good night.
Edit, I apologize for the long post. Long week and then when I get home I see his little signature kinda was like "Really"
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Posts : 324 Points : 5708 Join date : 2010-01-22 Location : Parker, Colorado
| Subject: Re: Season 8 Race 7 Le Mans Circuit de la Sarthe 25 Laps Sun Sep 23, 2012 4:45 am | |
| Pred, I can probably speak for prone here. thats his signature, pointing out a personal achievement of some sort, if you will, of being the lowest PI in the top ten. I would do it if i could but forza and I don't have the best of relationships. It's basically saying, Hah I'm Faster suck it.
Besides I was in a party with him when he changed it. | |
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Matthnt
Posts : 523 Points : 5509 Join date : 2011-04-09
| Subject: Re: Season 8 Race 7 Le Mans Circuit de la Sarthe 25 Laps Sun Sep 23, 2012 9:25 am | |
| - Admin/PredatorUSMC wrote:
4. Driving with a controller - fastest 5. Driving with a wheel - slower (more realistic and can be smoother but corrections are much slower)
14. Some people play on small TV 15. Some people play on Big TV
Playing on a controller is not the fastest. I know that many of the super fast guys on this game use a wheel. Some use a controller and can be equally as fast. Season 5 I raced on a 12" tv and Gdub played on a 100" projector so you can't say that tv size makes THAT much of a difference | |
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SaintedPlacebo4
Posts : 2473 Points : 7092 Join date : 2012-07-05 Location : North East U.S
| Subject: Re: Season 8 Race 7 Le Mans Circuit de la Sarthe 25 Laps Sun Sep 23, 2012 9:28 am | |
| i think it was a kind of "haha check it out way below average and im right up there" i dont think it was a personal knock at Pred, but thats just my interpretation. but either way i hope everyone has a great race today, good luck to all | |
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SSRT DWilkerson
Posts : 439 Points : 5622 Join date : 2010-08-06 Location : Lindenwold, NJ, USA
| Subject: Re: Season 8 Race 7 Le Mans Circuit de la Sarthe 25 Laps Sun Sep 23, 2012 9:39 am | |
| - Matthnt wrote:
- Season 5 I raced on a 12" tv and Gdub played on a 100" projector so you can't say that tv size makes THAT much of a difference
I ran with a 12" for season 3 and 3/4 of season 4. It SUCKED. Now I race with a 27", sitting on my desk about 2 1/2 feet from my face. It does make seeing smaller braking points much easier. It didn't make me faster per say, but it did make me much more consistent, which in turn made me a faster driver over the long run. - SaintedPlacebo4 wrote:
- I hope everyone has a great race today, good luck to all.
Indeed. | |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: Season 8 Race 7 Le Mans Circuit de la Sarthe 25 Laps Sun Sep 23, 2012 9:48 am | |
| any practicing or Qualifying?? |
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No1 Tommy Smurf
Posts : 520 Points : 5149 Join date : 2012-05-02 Location : Great Britain, Leicestershire
| Subject: Re: Season 8 Race 7 Le Mans Circuit de la Sarthe 25 Laps Sun Sep 23, 2012 9:56 am | |
| - Th3 NaPsTeR 15 wrote:
- any practicing or Qualifying??
I can host a session in a couple of minutes just waking myself up (managed to fall asleep whilst watching the F1 and woke up when post race analysis just finished) | |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: Season 8 Race 7 Le Mans Circuit de la Sarthe 25 Laps Sun Sep 23, 2012 10:01 am | |
| yeah that would be great thanks |
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Admin/PredatorUSMC Admin
Posts : 3765 Points : 9678 Join date : 2010-01-22 Location : West Coast
| Subject: Re: Season 8 Race 7 Le Mans Circuit de la Sarthe 25 Laps Sun Sep 23, 2012 10:31 am | |
| I will be on in 10 - 15. Eating breakfast. | |
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SSRT_Pronebird
Posts : 81 Points : 4576 Join date : 2012-07-31
| Subject: Re: Season 8 Race 7 Le Mans Circuit de la Sarthe 25 Laps Sun Sep 23, 2012 11:05 am | |
| I mean. I could have just made a post wondering why Dwilkerson (A past GT champion) has 8 MORE PI than I do.
IN THE SAME CAR.
but I bet you can't explain that. Especially after awarding PI for a 2nd place finish at hockenheim.
All I'm asking for is 3 or 5 PI.
It would still leave me well below the average and you would not hear another word from me on the issue. | |
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JumpInTheFire88
Posts : 106 Points : 4604 Join date : 2012-08-03
| Subject: Re: Season 8 Race 7 Le Mans Circuit de la Sarthe 25 Laps Sun Sep 23, 2012 1:13 pm | |
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Bradsz
Posts : 510 Points : 5697 Join date : 2010-09-12 Location : Birmingham, Great Britain
| Subject: Re: Season 8 Race 7 Le Mans Circuit de la Sarthe 25 Laps Sun Sep 23, 2012 1:25 pm | |
| - SSRT_Pronebird wrote:
- All I'm asking for is 3 or 5 PI.
Asking for PI, cheap move prone, cheap move. | |
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SSRT DWilkerson
Posts : 439 Points : 5622 Join date : 2010-08-06 Location : Lindenwold, NJ, USA
| Subject: Re: Season 8 Race 7 Le Mans Circuit de la Sarthe 25 Laps Sun Sep 23, 2012 2:33 pm | |
| - Bradsz wrote:
- SSRT_Pronebird wrote:
- All I'm asking for is 3 or 5 PI.
Asking for PI, cheap move prone, cheap move. Why don't you try taking off 15PI and we'll see how you feel. (Don't want to join in on this PI BS.) | |
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SSRT_Pronebird
Posts : 81 Points : 4576 Join date : 2012-07-31
| Subject: Re: Season 8 Race 7 Le Mans Circuit de la Sarthe 25 Laps Sun Sep 23, 2012 2:46 pm | |
| - Admin/PredatorUSMC wrote:
- Sunday September 23rd 5pm PST--Le Mans, France (Standing Start)
Click For SERIES RACE SCHEDULE
Standing Start
Pit Window 5 - 15 For the halfway point of the season The Forza Sports Car Series travels to the legendary Circuit de la Sarthe in France. Top speed heaven! It is obvious that this track puts a premium on top speed so it can be said with certainty that this track will display the highest sustained speeds drivers will see on any track during the season. With such a rich history of racing this track will undoubtedly stir excitement with many racers and fans alike. This race marks the halfway point of the season and thus the racers of the series begin to eyball the run to the championship. Some will look at their first half results and be content and others will not. Some will focus, get determined to improve and try to make a run if not for the Championship but to snag that points position in front of them. The second half is where Champions are made! Where will you be at the end?
Season 7 GT Pole Position 3:57.014 - Sambinksey #78 RUF RGT-8 (AVERAGE TIME GT 4:05.776) Season 7 GTC Pole Position 4:19.547 - DoubleRazor1 #26 Ford GT (AVERAGE TIME GTC 4:28.350)
Qualifying is now OPEN! GET WITH A ROOM HOST OR SERIES OFFICIAL TO QUALIFY
HAVE YOUR QUAL TIME DONE BY 1pm PST SUNDAY The last qual session will run at 1:00pm Sunday. Anyone who does not qualify will be subject to Rule 4.1E
Under Probation: Th3 NaPsTeR 15 {R} GT - 2 race probation left - #37 McLaren MP4-12C jpnVR4 GTC- 2 race probation left - #79 Acura NSX Wngless mkIV GTC - 2 race probation left - #6 Porsche 911 GT3 (997) Filthy Carnage {R} GTC - 2 race probation left - #82 BMW 1 Series M Coupe Oh and while I'm at it. How many laps does this say we have to qualify. I'll wait........... | |
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Admin/PredatorUSMC Admin
Posts : 3765 Points : 9678 Join date : 2010-01-22 Location : West Coast
| Subject: Re: Season 8 Race 7 Le Mans Circuit de la Sarthe 25 Laps Sun Sep 23, 2012 3:05 pm | |
| It doesn't say how many laps. I failed to make it clear that Qual was supposed to be 5 laps. I did not remember that last season was a 4 lap qualifier.
As for PI......... | |
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SSRT DWilkerson
Posts : 439 Points : 5622 Join date : 2010-08-06 Location : Lindenwold, NJ, USA
| Subject: Re: Season 8 Race 7 Le Mans Circuit de la Sarthe 25 Laps Sun Sep 23, 2012 3:25 pm | |
| In that case, I ran a 3:59.549 (Exactly 1 sec faster then my lap 2 cert qual time) on lap 4 that I didn't send in. Matt and a few others can back me up.
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Admin/PredatorUSMC Admin
Posts : 3765 Points : 9678 Join date : 2010-01-22 Location : West Coast
| Subject: Re: Season 8 Race 7 Le Mans Circuit de la Sarthe 25 Laps Sun Sep 23, 2012 3:49 pm | |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: Season 8 Race 7 Le Mans Circuit de la Sarthe 25 Laps Sun Sep 23, 2012 4:06 pm | |
| if im 16th am i in b lobby ands whos hosting rooms???....... |
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JumpInTheFire88
Posts : 106 Points : 4604 Join date : 2012-08-03
| Subject: Re: Season 8 Race 7 Le Mans Circuit de la Sarthe 25 Laps Sun Sep 23, 2012 4:20 pm | |
| - Th3 NaPsTeR 15 wrote:
- if im 16th am i in b lobby ands whos hosting rooms???.......
pred will post the room hosts and who's in what room | |
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Admin/PredatorUSMC Admin
Posts : 3765 Points : 9678 Join date : 2010-01-22 Location : West Coast
| Subject: Re: Season 8 Race 7 Le Mans Circuit de la Sarthe 25 Laps Sun Sep 23, 2012 4:22 pm | |
| Race Rooms For Season 8 Race 7 - 25 Laps of Le Mans Circuit de la Sarthe- brought to you by Game Stop / ALMS / CINCOsportSTANDING START - NO PER CAR DELAY GT START THEN A 15 SECOND DELAY FOR GTC START Congratulations to The LSA {R} for earning his first Pole Position of his FSCS career! Earning the GT Class Pole Position in his #32 Gryphon Racing Holden Commodore VE .
Congratulations to F4H FACEPALMER {R} for earning his first Pole Position of his FSCS career! Earning the GTC Class Pole Position in his #666 Boss Racing BMW M3(E92) A rookie dominated pole position in both classes! AVERAGE QUAL TIME GT 4:04.806 AVERAGE QUAL TIME GTC 4:19.585 Please be in your race room by 4:45PM PST. Be on time or be left out! Race Starts @ 5:00pm PST Mandatory Pit Between Laps 5 - 15 GOOD LUCK TO ALL! STANDING START(HOST)PredatorUSMC1 The LSA {R} 2 THF dvsSublime 3 Boostbeef{R} 4 SSRT DWilkerson 5 xxHENCHMAN24xx 6 Blahzay xxl 7 PredatorUSMC 8 SSRT Pronebird 1 F4H FACEPALMER {R} 2 Matthnt 3 SkiNl3Y {R} 4 RAFT Hiredgun 5 jpnVR4 6 GLR Roca 7 EZT Gambit {R} 8 iTsz BrAdSz (HOST)METAL C6R9 Speed Demon 69 10 METAL C6R 11 LUKEMAD9999 {R} 12 OldFenderBender 13 Zalonka IV 14 Jeckel4438 15 BlackHawk S61 {R} 16 vV Science Vv 9 Raceboy77 10 ROSCOEpCOTRAIN 11 Oddball7000 12 JumpInTheFire88 {R} 13 hannibaljazz 98 {R} 14 SaintedPlacebo4 {R} 15 retroward 16 Basicblaq (HOST)TheManNowDog77717 Th3 NaPsTeR 15 {R} 18 Zenrad {R} 17 CThompson17 18 TheManNowDog777 19 Blakeystar {R} 20 Abramsmech17 {R} 21 bLuEsMoKe305 {R} Any Racers who Did Not Qualify will start at the back of this room.PRE-RACING19 Luongo27 Under Probation: Th3 NaPsTeR 15 {R} GT - 2 race probation left - #37 McLaren MP4-12C jpnVR4 GTC- 2 race probation left - #79 Acura NSX Wngless mkIV GTC - 2 race probation left - #6 Porsche 911 GT3 (997) Filthy Carnage {R} GTC - 2 race probation left - #82 BMW 1 Series M Coupe
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